I am NOT otherkin. I’m not even really Therian. I’m hindu.
Life is from a soul. That soul can change bodies when one bodies expires.
Book characters and robots do not have souls.
While doing research for a book I was writing that had a therianthropy themes, I got caught up in the otherkin tags on tumblr. I regret that now.
Otherkins, please kindly unfollow.
Any response to this post will be laughed at and then the poster will be reminded that I do not give a fuck.
So what do you think about people who really believe they’re animals? I personally don’t believe in reincarnation (I’m not religious in any way, nor I have religious-related ideas) but I think that the idea of being human in this life but thinking you’re an animal and using reincarnation as an excuse is lame and pathetic.
The important thing to note is that religions that believe in reincarnation still treat the concept completely differently than otherkin do. People who believe in reincarnation believe they WERE those animals/people, not that they still are. Reincarnation treats the soul as a being’s energy. Energy, plain and simple, that has to find a new outlet once its old one has died. A soul is something that can travel in and out of bodies, pretty much. There is no such thing as a “dog soul” as opposed to a human soul. A soul is a soul is a soul. So while your soul was in a dog, you were a dog, and you might still have memories or feelings tied to that experience, sure. But your soul is in a human body now, and now you’re a human. You’re not a “dog soul trapped in a human’s body”—that’s not how reincarnation works. That’s not how souls work, according to reincarnation. You’re just a human. Whether you’re a human who can’t get over their past lives and move on to the life you’re in now (under the reincarnation theory) or you’re just a human who’s really obsessed with dogs, you’re still a human. You’re either either fixated on a past that is gone, or you’re fixated on something that never was. But either way, you’re obsessing and dwelling on something that cannot be changed, and you need to learn acceptance and to move on.
Again: according to the reincarnation theory, it is possible to still retain memories and feelings from a past life. But that’s what it is—a past life. You’re not that thing anymore, you’re something else now. This is a new life, and you’re wasting it by dwelling on things that happened long ago, to a different body that once held your soul.
tl;dr—If you believe that a “dog’s soul” somehow got put in a human’s body, then don’t call that reincarnation. Call it “making stuff up to justify calling yourself a dog”, ‘cause that’s what you’re doing.
~it goes against science~
~but you were born before it was made~
~it goes against my religion~
*~I’M A BIG FUCKING ASSHOLE~*
okay. let me get this straight.
we all identify as something nOT HUMAN RIGHT? OR NOT “REAL” rIGHT? in itself, out of context, that sounds really silly! We KNOW its NOT SILLY, but given the era of today it is. SO SAYING YOU IDENTIFY AS A XXX AND THEN SHITTING ON OTHER IDENTITIES IS JUST MAKING YOU LOOK LIKE THE BIGGEST FUCKING ASSHOLE ON THE PLANET AND FURTHER, BECAUSE YOU ALSO IDENTIFY AS NONHUMAN. get your HEAD out of your ASS.
FIRST, if you identify as anything, ANYTHING, other than a normal human being that is not from anything but this world along you are OTHERKIN. But say, if you are an animal, you are the sub THERIAN. If you’re a mythical animal you are OTHERKIN and/or THERIAN. If you identify as a being from any piece of media, you are MEDIAKIN/FICTIONKIN, which is a sub of OTHERKIN. ANYTHING is a sub of OTHERKIN. OTHERKIN is an umbrella term.
So DON’T fucking coin it as an ANIMAL ONLY term.
SECOND, so, you’re saying it’s ~JUST YOUR OPINION~ so you’re SORRY if you offend other beings? If you were really sorry, you wouldn’t have posted your ~OPINION~. Even though it is an “opinion”, it’s HATEFUL. It’s the SHITTY THINGS LIKE THAT THAT PUT US DOWN AND MAKE US FEEL WORSE ABOUT OURSELVES AND MAKES US WANT TO KILL OURSELVES BECAUSE BEINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THINK WE’RE NOT REAL, THATS LIKE ASKING FOR QUEER SUPPORT IN A QUEER COMMUNITY BUT NOT GETTING IT BECAUSE YOU’RE X OR Y OR Z. STOP.
We don’t need your “opinions”, when we get ENOUGH FUCKING HATE FROM ASSHOLES ALREADY.
So just stop with your ~opinions~, they’re hurtful and they put us down, especially coming from other Otherkin.
Here is my finished research paper on otherkin for my Magic, Science, and Religion class! I got full points!! HUGE thanks to everyone who offered to be interviewed!! Without you guys this paper wouldn’t be nearly as interesting. Unfortunately, due to time and size restrictions, I had to cut out a lot of interesting quotations. Even after editing, I was two pages over the limit. So if you see your own quotes heavily edited or absent, that’s why.
WARNING IT’S LONG.
I made my own chart
Basically it doesn’t matter how many beings are X species. Categorizing beings is stupid and let’s stop breaking down the community like that
It does, kind of. It makes us look unfavorable if we’re all special wolf dragon cats.
Therian species charts based on 85 kintypes from a therian forum.
Here’s your chance!
I would be careful about ANY tv-show that wants to make a “documentary” about otherkin. I’ve already seen some trainwrecks. Even if the TV team is nice and listens to you, they might have to cut, paste, add music etc if some producer or buyers asks for it. It’s still a job for them.
The best TV documentary that includes therians, is Animal Imitators. It also has some furries, Stalking Cat and some girl who has leopard spot tattoos. But even that one sold some footage to “Weird, True and Freaky” that made everyone seem totally nuts. Compare Animal Imitators to “WTF” (ep. Humanimals) and you’ll see what can happen with what seems like totally innocent footage.
Seriously, I think fluffbunnies are one of my biggest pet peeves. I have zero tolerance for them, and if they don’t admit to being roleplayers and are just screwing around, if they truly want others to believe their crap, I make it my personal agenda to uncover them.
Yeah, maybe I’m a bit cruel with how I publicly embarrass people. But if they aren’t willing to be honest with everyone and themselves that they’re not as “great” as they think they are, then I don’t care how mean it is, I will take them down a peg or two.
I do not tolerate nor respect those who go on power trips. I’ve been down that path before, and I hated myself for it. I now have a personal vendetta for anyone who thinks they’re better than everyone else. :P
Please spread and share this photo. :) I think this is the perfect example of how NOT to act when it comes to the Otherkin community. It’s people like this who give us a bad name… *SMH* We need to distance ourselves from these kinds of people.
Ironic. Those who make fools of themselves become famous. They get exactly what they want: attention. Just not the kind they were looking for…
I’m so glad that otherkin on tumblr are finally starting to point out that yes, some people are fluffy.
Gosh, I talked with this girl recently who thought that “real therians” could physically shift, and that therians who didn’t believe in that kind of things, were fakers. And oh, “her inner wolf” had this emo name in English, even though her first language was something completely else. Won’t post her “name” here, but just to give you an idea, it was in same style as (for example) darkblood/blackfang.
I think a lot of young therians/otherkin go through a phase when they don’t realise how silly they sound, really want to share their identity with others, and are so desperate for magic/p-shifting that they are willing to believe whatever bullshit they read online. It’s those who put out “p-shifting guides” or “become a vampire” etc who should be blamed most. But yeah… fluffy/delusional otherkin are quite embarrassing…
I’ve lurked otherkin forums all night and sifted through every online resource I can find.
here’s my conclusion: I like to think of myself as a very open and accepting person, but for some reason “otherkin” is something that I now understand, and I don’t believe it’s real. that being said, I have nothing against those who identify as otherkin, and I certainly don’t think there’s anything wrong with identifying as that.
I can brofist to that
For awhile, I felt pressured to keep either a neutral stance or to accept their identities just because of the whole “if they feel that way, it’s valid” mentality.
But after learning more, I realized that I don’t have to believe in something that is so obviously not true. melted-snowflake’s blog helped.
Only, I do have something against some Otherkin who co-opt the oppression of others (and there’s more than they’d like you to believe), bully people, and condone/support unacceptable behavior/preferences (pedophilia, zoophilia). But yeah.
Hi otherkin tag. It’s been awhile. Let’s have a chat.
This isn’t entirely about otherkin, but it sort of is. It’s mostly about mental illness and why you should stop calling anyone who has a slightly different belief crazy.
Seeing when you say someone is mentally ill or crazy, and should not be listened to, you’re saying their views are not worth considering because of their mental health status. You’re saying they count for less because of something they potentially have no control over. People with mental illnesses are discriminated against, we don’t need your bullshit added onto that. So..when you call someone crazy, think about what you’re saying and what is inherently bad about being mentally ill.
Okay, now onto otherkin.
Otherkin is not a mental illness on its own. Otherkin can recognize they’re physically human, and account for all non-subjective reality. It falls under the category of a benign personal belief, and if it’s not impeding someone’s life or harming them or those around them, then it’s not a problem.
And being bullied isn’t a harm from the identity itself, it’s a harm from other people.
So…stop calling otherkin mentally ill, and back off people for their personal beliefs that are none of your business, okay?
Why are we so eager to take offense at anything others say?
Watching a group of you violently slam someone who voiced interest in an idea that would serve as a resource to help teen otherkin feel less alone in the world has baffled me completely.
Yes, I know Dan Savage isn’t that great. And yes, I know that comparisons to the LGBTQ community are often misappropriated, abused, and in general inappropriate.
But this isn’t about “otherkin are like gays because we’re oppressed” - that topic rages unreasonably on its own, but bringing that context into this effort is just ridiculous. This is about “otherkin teens may be like gay teens in that they feel alone”. You could say the same for “otherkin are like gamer nerds in that they feel alone” or any other comparison that just says, “you might find yourself in a situation where you are the only one of your kind in your area, and you feel like it’s shitty.” That’s all. That’s the extent of the comparison. Loneliness.
Why does a community that is at such odds within itself, that is full of backbiting and defensiveness and full of individuals who feel like they can’t talk about who they are not just to people in real life, but within the community itself, refuse a positive effort to help its individuals feel a little better about who they are, from others in the community who have been through that part of it already and found comfort afterwards?
Why take offense? If one is so concerned about the LGBTQ comparison, why not just say, “Good idea, but let’s move the context away from what makes us feel uncomfortable?” The sheer amount of flat-out rejection rage against someone just trying to do something positive is shocking and appalling to me in a group of people who seem, for the most part, like they’re trying to be mutually supportive and positive. But when someone (also in that community!) says “I want to help” withjustthe wrong context, that positiveness vanishes into nastiness.
Otherkin, you’re saying, “Queers in the community think it’s a bad idea!”. Have you considered that there may be queers in the community who think it’s a fine thing? I’m genderqueer and gay. And I do not have any problems with this. The original poster is gay and otherkin! I know many of you who are so quick to refute this are teens. Why, when it’s targeted specifically to make something positive for you? I remember being a queer teenager, the only one in my high school, and feeling alone. Yes, there was also feeling concerned about rights and abuse, etc. but there was also just feeling alone. I was the only out kid in my school, and I felt alone. That’s it. How wonderful it would have been to hear from someone older who said, “Hey, it’s all right, you’re not alone.” And how wonderful it would be for otherkin struggling with being the “only one around” to hear, “Hey, you’re not crazy, plenty of us make this work and are happy and don’t hate our animal/other selves.”
As otherkin, it seems like a lot of us feel isolated and misunderstood. Can we not just take an effort to help alleviate that for what it is, instead of taking offense for it? Let’s be reasonable here, and show that we can be a positive community worth respecting; let’s actually do something to help each other instead of a bunch of people addicted to getting offended.
Image Description: Title reads “Forget Transcorporeality”
Body reads: ‘Transcorporeality’ is the idea that all beings who don’t explicitly identify with certain aspects of their bodies should be one giant group. It’s the idea that transethnic people, transabled people, otherkins, therians, nonhumans, multiples, and transgender people are “pretty much the same” and share most of the same struggles.
“FT” is a movement/blog for those of us who do not want to give up our own communities and struggles. It’s for those of us who are tired of being erased and kicked out of our communities. It’s for peopel who have nothing against other identities, but don’t have the energy or don’t want to get involved with their fight. It’s for people who do not agree with or don’t want to be grouped with other identities. It’s for people that don’t agree with transcorporeal rhetoric or just don’t want to be a part of it.
If that’s for you, join. Sumbit. Be heard.
*Otherkin are included in the word people, as that seems to be the consensus on what group word to use. If you disagree, let me know and I may change it to beings or something else.
* We are not a hate blog, and we do not advocate violence. We are not against other identities, but we don’t want to mashed in with groups to which we do not feel connected.